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[Culture] Top Secret
Lapin:
Je suis sûr qu'en fait cette vidéo a été montée par le gouvernement US pour 1) alimenter en désinformation les conspirationnistes et 2) décrédibiliser ce mouvement au cas où il dévoilerait de vraies conspirations. Tout cela fait partie d'un plan de crowd control de la CIA.
Lukas:
La video est "too much" on est tous d'accord, mais la dessus aussi on est tous d'accord ?
The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.
Ao:
--- Citation de: Lukas,t=1314102404,id=73609 ---Je ne suis pas franc maçon, j'ai juste été rosicrucien pendant plusieurs années
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--- Citation de: Lukas,t=1315856585,id=74418 ---La video est "too much" on est tous d'accord, mais la dessus aussi on est tous d'accord ?
The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.
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Je confonds ou la Rose-Croix peut quand même aisément être classifiée comme "société secrète" ?
Pardon d'avance en cas d'erreur de ma part, je suis très mal documenté sur le sujet.
Lukas:
Non elle n'est pas secrète, car n'importe qui peut s'inscrire, avoir rendez vous avec le responsable de l'AMORC en France, envoyer du courrier, téléphoner...Etc...
Ce n'est pas une société secrète, c'est un ordre esoterique et traditionnel, ouvert à tous sans aucun critère particulier si ce n'est celui d'être à la recherche d'une certaine connaissance.
...disons que c'est moins secret que le rotary club ou skulls and bones, au hasard...
Ao:
Le Rotary Club secret ?
Ah bon.
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